Very Sick Oscar

[elvispacman]

Ive got a 12 inch oscar, his fins are coming off hes showing white from the scale loss
Tell us about the fish:
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1)JD has no symptoms,Oscar is one with symptoms
2)What medications have been tried: None
3)When they were introduced to the tank, did fish from where they came from have symptoms:Had them both for a while
4)Numbers, size, and types of fish in your tank:4inch JD, 12 inch Oscar
5)What, how much, and how often you feed:Omega One,2-3 times a day,frozen bloodworms a once a day,frozen shrimp every few days.
6)How much water you change and how often once a week
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Tell as much as you know about the tank and equipment:
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7)When was the tank set up:while back
8)How many gallons:60, oscar is in a 20 gallon by himself right now though
9)What's your water temperature:its kinda cold
10)What's your ph:find out tomorrow
11)What's your ammonia level:find out tomorrow
12)Hardness level:find out tomorrow
13)Type(s) of filter(s) powerhead 60gal dont know the brand
14)Anything else we should know: Hes moving around but not eating,ill put picture up soon,started this week, didnt think it get this bad,

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based on what info yall give me im gonna go to petsmart and buy what i need as far as meds go

[mistahoo]

Do you use salt in your tanks after a water change? Do you dechlorinate the water when you do a water change? Why is the water kinda cold? Is it cold like the 65-70 degree range? Did the JD attack the Oscar? If you have an injured fish, I find it helpful to keep the lights off to reduce stress.

[elvispacman]

got the lights off,jd doesnt hurt the oscar, the tilapia does that i have now gotten rid of and wont get another, and yea like 65-70, what temperature would you recommend,yes i dechlrointte the water after a water change,dont use salt, iwas thinking of getting something with aloe vera to help his skin heal,im concerned on how to stop it from spreading throught more of his body

[mistahoo]

They are tropical fish, I would recommend about 76-80, but I believe any fish can adapt to the temperatures of the water if you acclimate them to it. Temp shouldn't be that much of a problem. I would slowly add some aquarium salt into the 20g for right now. If you don't have aquarium salt, any salt without the "anti-caking" ingredient will do. 1 Tbsp for every 5 gallons of water is what I normally put for table salt.

A picture would really help to determine if you need to go buy some meds for your fish.

[elvispacman]

i thought i did put pictures in there on the links

[Geral]

I will bump the temp to 80 slowly don't shock the fish changing the temp to fast

Another thing for my sound like a infection
That happen to a Oscar I give to Tran at fish ranch
Idk what he use but he bring it back to health and that one almost lost all the scales and was a red looking like a albino

[mistahoo]

i thought i did put pictures in there on the links

I will bump the temp to 80 slowly don't shock the fish changing the temp to fast

Another thing for my sound like a infection
That happen to a Oscar I give to Tran at fish ranch
Idk what he use but he bring it back to health and that one almost lost all the scales and was a red looking like a albino

Yeah, don't go and just put the heater straight to 80. Do like 2-5 degrees at a time. It does seem like an infection. I'm not well versed with meds. Maybe someone will chime in about it? I do know that salt can cure a lot of infections if you catch it quick enough. Either way, I would add salt for now since you can't make a run out to the store. Just add a table spoon at a time, waiting for each to dissolve first so you won't shock the fish from change in the water chemistry.

[mistahoo]

I wouldn't move him out of water anymore until he heals up completely. It causes a great deal of stress.

[elvispacman]

did yall see the pictures?

[mistahoo]

did yall see the pictures?

Yup. The links work. Try out the salt for now. You can't really do much other than that for now since you don't have meds. Someone will chime in in the morning and then you could go buy the meds if you need it.

[elvispacman]

did the salt now just gonna heat up the temp slowly

[allysangels]

while yes fish can adapt, remember that these are cold blooded animals. the temperature of the water regulates their metabolism, growth rate, and most importantly, THEIR IMMUNE RESPONSE! it's a good idea to raise the temp slowly.

[barrettsline]

Very Sick Oscar

My recommendation would also be to pull out all decorations from the tank. You need to try live foods ghost shrimp and such. Raise the tank temperature 5 degrees every 36 hours hold at 78. Raising it to high can bring on an infection if it's not beginning to heal. Treat with 1/2-3/4 dose of methalyine blue. and water change daily. Remembers oscars are just as bad as gold fish. That waste has to be removed from the water.

[ScorpiosWife]

Just curious... are there any white stringy or fuzzy things on him or in the tank?

[imagirlgeek]

I'm a big believer in vitamins for fish when they are sick or weak. I personally use a liquid vitamin made specifically for fish (Vitachem), but not sure you could find that at any of the big box pet stores. I order mine online, but I've seen it at City Pets too. If you can't find that locally, you can use Vitamin C for people. This treatment was actually recommended to me by an aquatic vet, who I contacted when my 26" giraffe cat had a virus 3 years ago. I had tried everything on him. I believe the vitamins were the key to him healing. Here's a link to that thread. He's still with me, btw.

If you choose to use Vitamin C, you'll want to dose the 20g to 5ppm...so 5 times 20 = 100mg of Vitamin C. A little more or a little less won't hurt anything, it doesn't have to be exact. What you'll need to watch is the pH, so add the vitamin slowly. Vitamin C is usually buffered with something for people, and can cause the pH in the tank to swing. You don't want that...it will stress the fish worse than if you do nothing at all. Large pH swings can be deadly, so this is very important. You would dose the tank once a day.

The Vitamin C will increase his immune response and help him heal. Same as with people.