Burundi Farms - Discussion

[geoff_tropheus]

Re: Burundi Farms - Discussion

More Man Made Tropheus -

Golden Bemba

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v208/buntbarsch/Simochromis/Golden20Bemba2020BE01.jpg

Golden Bemba

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v208/buntbarsch/Simochromis/Golden20Bemba20BE_04.jpg

Tropheus Red Phoenix

http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p311/dtwleung/Tropheusredphoenix2.jpg

[eklikewhoa]

Re: Burundi Farms - Discussion

Wasn't there like Golden Kipili's as well?

[geoff_tropheus]

Re: Burundi Farms - Discussion

Albino.

http://burnel.club.fr/Horreur/Tralbinos2.JPG

[Mzungu]

Re: Burundi Farms - Discussion

Sigh.

They're already absolutely beautiful fish. Why mess with that?  :evil:

[Delock]

Re: Burundi Farms - Discussion

Question

Dont all tropheus inbreed or crossbreed? I was watching a dvd that prove my point.

Over time the lake was not the current lake we see today. During the growth of the lake different group of tropheus was introduce to one another and some form of crossbreeding/inbreeding has to have happen.  There is not a pure tropheus.  Now what we have is several species that have some way morph into the different type of trophs on the market!

[eklikewhoa]

Re: Burundi Farms - Discussion

Kingfish on CF/Joey on TF had gotten an albino Ilangi from his colony.

[eklikewhoa]

Re: Burundi Farms - Discussion

I think what that DVD was trying to say is that the different variants were created to land barrier shifts and evolution......not overnight line breeding and man made hybrids.

[geoff_tropheus]

Re: Burundi Farms - Discussion

Normal Kipili

http://tropheus.com.pl/galeria/albums/userpics/10001/normal_IMG_1736.jpg

Normal Kipili

http://www.ciclidos.com/Fotos_Peces/brichardi-kipili.jpg

[Mzungu]

Re: Burundi Farms - Discussion

There is not a pure tropheus.  

?? I'm not seeing your logic...?

[Delock]

Re: Burundi Farms - Discussion

Albino is a natural process...you cant stop that.


Plus the Kiriza may have been a crossbreed rather then man made

[geoff_tropheus]

Re: Burundi Farms - Discussion

Not all Tropheus will inbreed.  

There is several locations such as Bulu Point, and Karilani Island, where Duboisi, Poli, Moorii, and Brichardi all exist.

The annectens and Duboisi were even at the same depth.

[Delock]

Re: Burundi Farms - Discussion

There is not a pure tropheus.  

?? I'm not seeing your logic...?

During evolution or whatever one troph mated with a different one to produce whatever....You have to see the dvd to understand.

[geoff_tropheus]

Re: Burundi Farms - Discussion

Lets say Albino is natural 1 out of 100,000

But when your keeping those and breeding them together to get 200 out of 100,000

Then keeping all those and inbreeding them to where your getting 1,000 out of 25,000

Then so and so on with the inbreeding until your getting Albinos with Albinos and getting 75% Albino Clutches with vaible fry...that is not natural

[geoff_tropheus]

Re: Burundi Farms - Discussion

I saw it with you remember?

[Delock]

Re: Burundi Farms - Discussion

Not all Tropheus will inbreed.  

There is several locations such as Bulu Point, and Karilani Island, where Duboisi, Poli, Moorii, and Brichardi all exist.

The annectens and Duboisi were even at the same depth.

How do you know? We have how many types of Moorii on the market? Look at the Brichardi...All look the same execpt one or two features. How many Duboisi have been found? I think like 5 so far.