Why do people push a baby state today?

[imagirlgeek]

What does health insurance have to do with fries vs. fruit or a toy in a kids meal? What does heath insurance have to do with anything anymore? Our government already fixed that problem. It's a law now. No more heath insurance crisis anymore, right?

[ImaGuyGeek]

damn..really!

Yes! Really!

Out of the 59 million Americas that dont have health insurance. I seriously doubt that all have bling or boom!

Nope, only about 8milly can't afford it and there are programs for them. The rest need to quit beggin and sell some TV's or video games and take care of their own. That's (if your numbers are correct) 51mil losers out there begging with their hand out and probably a coach purse hanging on the same arm.

But, we as Americans have become the most unhealthy country of them all. Fast food establishments are not looking at keeping us healthy only full. I take it everyone have seen the pictures of the happy meal that sat out for 6 months? If not I can post it.

Is it Fast Food companies responsibility to keep me healthy or is it my responsibility to get up off my rapidly expanding a$$ and exercise a little and maybe eat a banana for breakfast instead of a sausage mcmuffin? I say it's mine and since it is my responsibility, the same is true for every other person out there. Demonizing fast food won't make people be responsible.

I wonder if they are teaching kids about the four basic food group!

Maybe those kids parents ought to get out of the fast food drive through and sit THEIR kids down at the kitchen table and explain it to them while cooking a healthy meal. They're not my kids or your kids. If they want me helping raise their kids and payin the bills, they better get ready to start living by my rules, otherwise keep me and my wallet out of it because Ima start dollin out some a$$ whoopins to set some parents and their little brats straight.

[Delock]

damn..really!

Out of the 59 million Americas that dont have health insurance. I seriously doubt that all have bling or boom! But, we as Americans have become the most unhealthy country of them all. Fast food establishments are not looking at keeping us healthy only full. I take it everyone have seen the pictures of the happy meal that sat out for 6 months? If not I can post it. I wonder if they are teaching kids about the four basic food group!

[ImaGuyGeek]

They just send you a massive bill that, depending on the severity of your emergency, you may never have the ability to pay back. Also keep in mind that the laws are written to make sure you receive this unaffordable health care if your emergency is severe enough. An example would be if you were badly injured in a car crash and rendered unconscious, whether or not you can afford it or not you will receive it, and you will be responsible for paying for it.

You just made my point.

Or car insurance, or groceries for ones children, or school clothes and supplies, or gas. Just because you might think that these are the only things people without insurance spend their money on doesn't make it true. NEXT

I never said "these are the only things people without insurance spend their money on". This is a weak attempt to redirect the point. FAIL!

My point is, If you have "Bling" or your car has "Boom", you better think about selling some $hi* before you start begging on the streets (from the tax payers and government) for money. Get some self respect and lose the vanity and pride, if you're begging, you can't afford vanity and pride. And asking for entitlements IS begging on the streets.

If every American has "Access" to health insurance, but admittedly not every American can afford it, do they really have access to it?

Yes. It is available to most everyone in the US. WalMart and McDonalds offer employees insurance. If you need or want it, you can get it. Again, without begging on the streets like a crackhead.

Doesn't this contradict what you just said about less than 3%?

No, there are roughly 300mil Americans. I guess simple math ain't so simple.

[stevenallenbarnard]

There are emergency rooms everywhere and they WILL NOT turn people away who need emergency care and there are clinics everywhere.

They just send you a massive bill that, depending on the severity of your emergency, you may never have the ability to pay back. Also keep in mind that the laws are written to make sure you receive this unaffordable health care if your emergency is severe enough. An example would be if you were badly injured in a car crash and rendered unconscious, whether or not you can afford it or not you will receive it, and you will be responsible for paying for it.

Also, you don't have to have insurance to go see a Doctor, you just ave to be willing to prioritize a Doctor's visit over getting your hair and nails done, or buying the latest $100 shoes, or 20 inch rims and 15 inch subs for your car, or XBox/PS2/Wii, or Coach purses, or big screen TV's, or iPhones, or (you get the picture)

Or car insurance, or groceries for ones children, or school clothes and supplies, or gas. Just because you might think that these are the only things people without insurance spend their money on doesn't make it true. NEXT

2) Every American has "Access" to health Insurance, not every American is willing to prioritize paying for it (See #1). Admittedly, not every American can afford it but that number is estimated to be below 8 million American Citizens. That is less than 3%

If every American has "Access" to health insurance, but admittedly not every American can afford it, do they really have access to it?

3) The estimated number of "Uninsured" US citizens is highly debated and seems to rise by 10's of millions monthly. Non citizens are being falsely added to those numbers but that is a whole other issue.

Doesn't this contradict what you just said about less than 3%?

[ImaGuyGeek]

59 million Americas are without health care. Banning a certain food item is not a big deal. Times have change from when most of us was growing up. We got outside more and didn't have fast food as a major part of our diet.

A few corrections here...

1) Every American has Health Care available to them, not every American pays for it. Heath Care and Health Care Insurance are two very different things. There are emergency rooms everywhere and they WILL NOT turn people away who need emergency care and there are clinics everywhere. Also, you don't have to have insurance to go see a Doctor, you just ave to be willing to prioritize a Doctor's visit over getting your hair and nails done, or buying the latest $100 shoes, or 20 inch rims and 15 inch subs for your car, or XBox/PS2/Wii, or Coach purses, or big screen TV's, or iPhones, or (you get the picture)
2) Every American has "Access" to health Insurance, not every American is willing to prioritize paying for it (See #1). Admittedly, not every American can afford it but that number is estimated to be below 8 million American Citizens. That is less than 3%
3) The estimated number of "Uninsured" US citizens is highly debated and seems to rise by 10's of millions monthly. Non citizens are being falsely added to those numbers but that is a whole other issue.

[Delock]

59 million Americas are without health care. Banning a certain food item is not a big deal. Times have change from when most of us was growing up. We got outside more and didn't have fast food as a major part of our diet.

[imagirlgeek]

Republicans!

Huh?

[Delock]

In reality the old adage in moderation is so true. If you actually look at it almost everything is fine in moderation. But as humans we have a hard time cutting ourselves off when we are in excess because excess is so much more fun then only taking what you need.

Republicans!

[stevenallenbarnard]

all of the major food chains already offer healthier alternatives in place of fries and soda. McDonalds, Sonic, Burger King, etc. They all already offer them, so it won't end up being a problem for them. the ones that don't will start, and life will continue to go on as usual. no one is trying to tell anyone what to eat, only that if they want to give away free toys then they will have to OFFER a healthy alternative, not make the healthy alternative mandatory.

[marauder_77868]

so if the reps want it to be law it would be ok?

Wrong is wrong...no matter what group puts it forth. But it seems we've had this discussion before...

[Darbex]

In reality the old adage in moderation is so true. If you actually look at it almost everything is fine in moderation. But as humans we have a hard time cutting ourselves off when we are in excess because excess is so much more fun then only taking what you need.

[Darbex]

I don't see where that's even implied, so it appears to just be argumentative. BUT, for the sake of argument, in my opinion, no. No one, regardless of party affiliation, has the right to tell me what I feed myself or my family.

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[CichlidFan]

Let's take a Poll......what is more harmful for children....Happy Meals or floridated water....?

HINT: “There have also been twenty-three studies indicating a lowered IQ in children associated with levels as low as 1.9 ppm fluoride in drinking water.”
source: The Case Against Fluoride

CF

[ImaGuyGeek]

in my opinion, no. No one, regardless of party affiliation, has the right to tell me what I feed myself or my family.

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