We hold these truths

[Jolley]

Re: We hold these truths

That really was very well said, Charles.

[Delock]

Re: We hold these truths

"I do not intend to lie down and let this country get away from its ideals without a fight" And what ideals are you talking about? Yours?

[marauder_77868]

Re: We hold these truths

The ideals it was founded on. The ideals which I will fight to ensure their continuance. The ideals of personal responsibility, equal opportunity, personal property, and a government which serves the people.

[Nickintex]

Re: We hold these truths

Somebody is a sore loser.....

[Nickintex]

Re: We hold these truths

Derek would like it.

I want to say something about it, but I'm holding back!

[jeebus]

Re: We hold these truths

"I do not intend to lie down and let this country get away from its ideals without a fight" And what ideals are you talking about? Yours?

Hard work. There is a lack of integrity in this country by the overwhelming support for a man who's policy is one that punishes those who work the hardest (make the most money), but rewards mediocracy instead.

The proof is that I have no desire to work any harder and promote, for Kim to get her Master's degree and promote, or for my family to invest into a small business as we planned, all because right now, we get a larger reward (tax credits/breaks) for not doing so.

Now that's a new America.

[Nickintex]

Re: We hold these truths

So I'm a bad person because I do not have a lot of money?

[marauder_77868]

Re: We hold these truths

Somebody is a sore loser.....

You misunderstand me. I'm not griping because we lost. I'm just saying that I'm not going to abandon my principles and beliefs because we lost.

[jeebus]

Re: We hold these truths

So I'm a bad person because I do not have a lot of money?

No more so than I am, or anyone with any amount of money. Its those who choose not to work, key word choose. Tax plan's like Obama's not only encourage these people who willingly make that choice to continue that lifestyle, but its very enticing to those who work hard, make little, and could instead not work, and make more.

[Nickintex]

Re: We hold these truths

My oreo was not like the one sold in stores.

8O

[Jolley]

Re: We hold these truths

Derek would like it.

I want to say something about it, but I'm holding back!

I've been holding back myself. LOL!

[ImaGuyGeek]

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So I'm a bad person because I do not have a lot of money?

Hard work and striving for more is being discouraged more and more in this country. Having money or not does not make one a bad person. It's the choices one makes that puts them in their position that determines good or bad.

That said, Obama's tax plan encourages bad behavior (Laziness, envy and lack of independence and responsibility) with financial reward and punishes good behavior (Hard work, independence, responsibility and personal growth and gain) with financial penalties.

Let's put it in a context everyone can understand. We're all back in school and we have a test tomorrow. nick, you study all night to do well missing a party. I go out and have a blast at the party. Nick, you're in class on time and make a 100% on the test. I drag in late and hung over, didn't study and fail with a 40%. Mr Obama, our teacher decides that this isn't fair so we both get a 70%

Is that fair to either of us? No!

This is essentially Obama's Tax plan

[ImaGuyGeek]

Re: We hold these truths

I guess I killed this thread with logic.

I hear crickets

[jeebus]

Re: We hold these truths

I guess I killed this thread with logic.

I hear crickets

You're freakin' me out man!  Somebody say somethin'!  :smokin:

[marauder_77868]

Re: We hold these truths

It's hard for them to say something when you apply logic...it doesn't fit in with their usual thought patterns.