free internet ( for Me)

[Complexity]

Another observation I thought I'd comment on.

It appears you asked your question, not because you were trying to decide for yourself what is right and wrong and was wanting input from others to further your internal thoughts on the matter, but, rather, came here hoping for others to give you a form of permission to do what I think you already know is wrong. This is demonstrated by two things that are very obvious.

1. You blamed the neighbor, calling him a "DumbA**" which is a way of saying that he is at fault for your behavior of hijacking his internet connection. It is a form of relieving yourself of the responsibility for your own actions. You're not at fault, he is, for leaving his network vulnerable.

2. The only person in which you thanked in this thread was the person who expressed an opinion of agreement with your position. Had you thanked all parties, including those who disagreed but offered other thoughts for consideration, then it would indicate an overall desire for the opinions of others. But by thanking only the person who said what you were hoping to hear, it indicates that you were wanting others to give you permission to do what you want to do. That way, you bare no personal responsibility for your actions because "others said it was okay."

No matter who agrees or disagrees with you and no matter how ignorant your neighbors may be in regards to computer networking, your decision to hijack someone else's internet is your decision and your decision alone. And you alone bare full and complete responsibility for that decision.

[PhishPhreek]

I'm an old fart and I grew up when the good guys wore white hats.

My simple moral code is I will not lie, cheat or steal. It may not be in vogue any more but thats still the way I think.

Do you feel like you need to wear black ?

[madugo]

is it that cool to post something like this on a forum?
i mean com on...find something else to do if you have thaaaaaat many free time..
if u think its not wrong to use it than just go ahead to use it...what is the whole point to post something like this?? u know wut i mean..

[danielp]

+1 Phish

Can we get a "Gong" button added to this site?

We need one really really bad.

[jeebus]

FYI, this is not a case of "finder's keepers." Not even close.

http://www.timewarnercable.com/Texas...esoftheft.html

WiFi Theft - WiFi theft occurs when someone installs a wireless network in a residence or business location and intentionally enables others to receive broadband service for free over their wireless network.

I guess we're all thieves then - those of us who have used the free wifi hotspots at various businesses. No, wait - we're just accessory to theft?

[Nickintex]

So are we implying that it's ok to steal because we feel that said item deserves to be stolen?

[jeebus]

I think we have to determine what "stealing" is when it comes to non-encrypted radio-waves.

If your wireless network card picks up a non-encrypted signal, how is that stealing? Is it not the responsibility of the owner of the signal to determine whether they want it shared or not by encrypting it or not?

If someone wants their signal encrypted and does not possess intelligence to encrypt their signal, do they then earn the privilege of privacy just by proxy?

[Nickintex]

Like taking candy from a baby, eh?

[Complexity]

If someone wants their signal encrypted and does not possess intelligence to encrypt their signal, do they then earn the privilege of privacy just by proxy?

Yes, they do.

Privacy isn't just for the "intelligent".

[Complexity]

I think we have to determine what "stealing" is...

Does it have to be stealing to be wrong?

What if my neighbor was out of town and gave me a key to their house in case of an emergency. Would that make it right for me to borrow something from them — even if I return it completely unharmed and undamaged — without their knowledge? It's not stealing. But it's still not right.

[jeebus]

A basic right to privacy is indeed just that, a right. But someone who purchases a wireless router to broadcast their internet connection wirelessly to wireless devices in their house is making the decision in the purchase of that equipment to be responsible for the control of its access.

A better example than borrowing your neighbor's key is if your neighbor has a window with blinds, but does not choose to control when those blinds block access to activities inside their home, allowing you the ability to see in to their home from a public space or your own private property.

[Nickintex]

So Jeebus likes to peek in people's windows? :P

[jeebus]

LOL. NO! Now I feel like Shooter McGavin after Happy asks him if he eats POS's for breakfast.

I don't borrow, steal, whatever my neighbor's internet connection because I pay for my own. With that said, I've also taken the responsibility to encrypt mine. It was not a hard process.

Its just as much the personal responsibility of the person with the wireless connection to encrypt it, as it is the person with the wireless network card to not use it.

You don't leave your car unlocked in your drive way, and if you do, you can't honestly expect that no one will not help themselves to your property at some point. This is the REAL world, not Pleasantville.

[Delock]

wait a min....dude is not stealing water or power. anything over the air is fair game. If you allow your network to be unsecured that's on you!


but if you cool with your neighbor let them know. Hell i allowed a neighbor to jump on my network and she gave me money every month toward the bill. you could offer the same!..for the moral cops lol

[Nickintex]

So if you don't have an alarm on your car, then its perfectly ok for someone to steal coz you are a moron for not having an alarm?