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    my friend wants to know if when you do a WC after you get about 50% of the dirty water out do you jus add all the water back in then add chemicall?
    becuase personally i have a 5 gal bucket that i fill up then add chemicals then add to tank does it really matter how you do it?
    210 gallon ~ S/A, C/A build; jaguar, dovii, flowerhorn, gold doviI, 2 red devils, pacu, shovel nose cat
    125 gallon long ~ African cichlids
    10 gallon ~ ghost shrimp breeding (fish treats) haha

  • #2
    when I do my water change...I normally do about a 60-70%water change. I drain the amount that im going to drain, then I add all of the chemicals (Amquel, stress coat, prime, etc.) for the entire water change. I then add water straight from the tap to the tank. you should definately look into getting a phython so that you arent having to carry water all over the house. they are simple and hookup directly to any sink in the house.
    250gallon-Wild Angels, community

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    • #3
      When doing a water change, its easier to remove as much water as you feel comfortable doing (70-80% for the most part) and then add dechlorinator for the whole tank (so if you have a 100g tank add dechlorinator for 100g NOT 70-80 which is what you are replacing. This ensures that you are getting enough in there and its not diluted to much. I like large size water changes over small for this reason.
      When you get to the point you have large tanks I would REALLY recommend looking at getting a carbon bottle / carbon snake etc to replace your water with. This way you dont have to use dechlorinator and you ensure that no additional chemicals goes into the tank.

      What fish do Jesper have
      180 WC T. Moorii Chilambo +1 Petro trewavasae.
      110
      Cyps, WC Xeno Spilopterus Kipili WC/F1/F2 T. sp red Kiku
      58 S. Decorus

      "The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money." -Margaret Thatcher

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      • #4
        where can i buy carbon bottle? or any member in here make carbon snake for sale?

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        • #5
          Fshfrk is where I got mine from. I got a 15ft 1.5" spa hose version which is filled with carbon, and then he adds hose connectors on it. This will push out water at a decent rate, removing 100 of all chlorine and chloramines out of the water. I just did yesterday a 90%+ water change on both my 180 and 110 without putting a drop of Amquel in the tank. The fish look better and act better on this water than anything else before. I will never go back to doing regular water changes without this if I can get away with it.

          Overall cost.. I estimate about $75 with the carbon included. Filter will last most people somewhere around 2-3 years and then you have to spend $10-$20 for new carbon. The rest stays the same.

          What fish do Jesper have
          180 WC T. Moorii Chilambo +1 Petro trewavasae.
          110
          Cyps, WC Xeno Spilopterus Kipili WC/F1/F2 T. sp red Kiku
          58 S. Decorus

          "The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money." -Margaret Thatcher

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          • #6
            man, i must ask John for how to do it. i need one because i change 150g total on my discus tanks everyday, and that carbon concept will save me a lot.
            can we bend the hose to make less space-taking instead of leave it 15'long, i live in apartment and need everything stay neat.

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            • #7
              are there any GUARANTEED advantages to using a carbon hose instead of Amquel? I keep hearing "you dont have to spend the money again" or "it cleans all the chlorine out" and my favorite "the fish like the water better" but is $9 every two months really a back breaker? How do you know the fish like it better...did they tell you? I have just seen alot of people on here that do all this exaggerated stuff to their tanks and i always wonder if we forget that these are fish....just add water. In my experience, i have found it just that simple. Most of us have dogs, but i bet we dont do anything other than: feed and water. I'm not knocking anybody that uses a carbon filter, i just havent seen the point.
              If it ain't wild caught
              You ain't doing it right

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              • #8
                wth is a carbon bottle?
                210 gallon ~ S/A, C/A build; jaguar, dovii, flowerhorn, gold doviI, 2 red devils, pacu, shovel nose cat
                125 gallon long ~ African cichlids
                10 gallon ~ ghost shrimp breeding (fish treats) haha

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                • #9
                  its literally exactly how it sounds. Its basically a bottle (a big damn bottle) that is filled with some sort of carbon. You run your water hose from the sink to the bottle, then the bottle to another hose that finds its way into your tank. Supposedly the point is that the tap water runs through the carbon and consequently is cleaned of chlorines, chlorimines, etc. Basically everything your Stresscoat does.
                  If it ain't wild caught
                  You ain't doing it right

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                  • #10
                    how often you change the water in your discus tank Rex? i change mine everyday for 50% and it costs me a lot more than $9 for 2 moths.

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                    • #11
                      How big is your discus tank? Mine is a 90g and I change about 70-80% every other day and it's not all that expensive. I buy the biggest bottle of Prime that Daniel has and two capfuls will do it.

                      I wouldn't mind having a carbon filter for the ease and expense, but the costs without it isn't too bad IMO.
                      Karen

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                      • #12
                        You can buy the carbon bottles that hook up to your tank but those run in the hundreds. The DIY that John or I built is a lot cheaper wont last as long but it does the job. I think my set up cost me $50 including the pelletized carbon. On my tanks I spend about $40 every three months on Prime with this I will reduce the cost from about $120-$160 annually to about $20 for new carbon annually if it has been exhuasted in one year but I might be able to get it to go 2 years.
                        Resident fish bum
                        330G FOWLR
                        34G Reef
                        330G Discus biotopish (no longer running)
                        28G JBJ Reef (no longer running)
                        Treasurer, GHAC

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                        • #13
                          how will you know when the carbon is exhausted. i wouldnt want to kill my fish to find out.
                          fishless

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by specialone0812 View Post
                            man, i must ask John for how to do it. i need one because i change 150g total on my discus tanks everyday, and that carbon concept will save me a lot.
                            can we bend the hose to make less space-taking instead of leave it 15'long, i live in apartment and need everything stay neat.
                            I have it rolled up in a plastic tub, so I can move it around easy.. this way I just connect disconnect.. and all leaks (if any) ends up in the tub... not my floor.

                            What fish do Jesper have
                            180 WC T. Moorii Chilambo +1 Petro trewavasae.
                            110
                            Cyps, WC Xeno Spilopterus Kipili WC/F1/F2 T. sp red Kiku
                            58 S. Decorus

                            "The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money." -Margaret Thatcher

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                            • #15
                              Just use a chlorine/ chlorimine test kit from Leslie's. Test it once or twice a year or more if feel like it, you should be good.

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