can someone id this geo?

[mark razmandi]

i was at aquatic world today and they had these GORGEOUS geos but they didnt know what type they were...i had to buy one and i was hoping yall knew what it was





my brasilienes on the left...if you look closely you can see he was born with only one ventral fin...i just noticed today when i was taken pics of them...will that be a problem?


also, my tiger bars seemed to have already nipped off one of the flowing parts of my new geo's (the one im asking to be identified) ventral fin (you can see in the pics)...do you think i cant keep tiger barbs with geos? i plan on getting one more of each of the ones i have and a couple more of some different types and maybe a couple severums and i have 3 large leporinus in the mail

[TaTeR ToT]

Geophagus Altifrons 'Manaus'
i have had several breeding pairs.

wait til he gets the trailers.

[mark razmandi]

THANKS!! and what do you mean trailers?

[TaTeR ToT]

fin trailers, heres a pic of my friends 15" show male Geophagus Altifrons 'Tocantins'




and the altifrons female



i have known this guy for a a few years, and have gotten fry from this pair, they are incredible!

[mark razmandi]

wow those are utterly BREATHTAKING! i had NO idea they get that big...how long till he outgrows my 90g? he is about 3 in now ...and i was gonna get 2 more tomorrow.....should i not mix different geo types? i read they can be aggressive towards other geos? him and my brasilienes seem to be fine though

[nitty]

This one is mine. Are you telling me he will look like that ???

[TaTeR ToT]

i dont know where you heard that,
geos do best when with other geos, regardless of sp.

also, you can several geos in a 90g tank their whole lives, that however is a minimum.

it will be a couple years before they outgrow your tank.

the best way to bring out the fin growth, color, and overall health of geos is weekly 60+% water changes, a varied diet with the staple being NLS 1mm Cichlid Formula, they enjoy this food, because they get to sift it out of the sand, like the foods they eat in the wild.
i have had the best results feeding nls 1mm 3 times daily, with regular daily feedings of mysis and brine shrimp, with bloodworms.

dont just drop the cube of frozen food in, dissolve it in the water while its in your hand, this ensures all of the geos get a good amount of food.

also, most geos enjoy fresh zuchini and shelled green peas, these should be fed weekly.

if you do what i have stated here, they will grow fast and breed regularly, and get long trailers at a young age.

also, leave as much open sand as possible, just have the tank lightly strewn with rocks and a couple pieces of wood.

no plants fake or live, as tehy dont appear in there natural habitat very much, and tend to just take up space.

you need about 75% of the bottom of the tank to be open sand area.

filtration is key!
i was running 3x eheim 2217 canisters, with 2x aquaclear 110's and 2x oddyssea ex350 powerheads with sponge filters.

this was on my 125g and it wasnt even enough.

these fish if not given proper above mentioned conditions, are very prone to both hlle head and lateral line erosion, and neotropicl bloat.

you can have ~6-8 geos in your tank no problem.

just keep an eye on the brasiliensis, the one you have is a male and he will become very territiorial and pretty aggressive when mature.

but he should still be fine in the longrun.

[TaTeR ToT]

This one is mine. Are you telling me he will look like that ???

with proper care and non aggro tankmates yes.
where did you get yours?

[mark razmandi]

wow looks like i have some shopping to do...i dont really want to take out my plants though because it is the main display of my living room....i do have alot of open sand though....they sift through it all day....should i get another brasillienes as well to give him a buddy? i plan on getting 2 more altifrons tomorrow

[mark razmandi]

i have 2 rena xp3s rated at 175 gallons a piece...is that enough? youve have gotten me all excited to go get more geos...any suggestions on what other species i should add? and how many of each?