Wet Dry Media

[Notsoballinxhobo]

Something that is no longer readily available is irrelevant.

You're as guilty of derailing as much as everybody in the conversation now hobo.

No stalemate is not "tuned" to checkmate yet, because you still have failed to point out exactly what's so bad about running two wet/drys on one tank besides stating opinions and saying the sky's falling rather than explaining to us how exactly what you warn of happening will happen. Hell you failed to explain the nature of failure to begin with.

I questioned your opinion on the topic, did I once base my replies on any notion of me getting a better deal on something than someone else? How someone is dumb or smart?

Nor did I try to discredit anyone based on a unresearched comment about how something does not exist.

No, you did, when you said that it was going to be a waste of money.

Since the majority of us don't run two W/D filters, or run K1/K3 in them, you failed to notice that this is in fact a one-of and tailor your replies accordingly.

I based this on the retail price and something that is controlled.

Your reply that most here don't pays full price does not pertain to everyone so I based it off what is the same across the board. No where do I see where the Op stated he is getting it for what price or even if he is paying for it. Only see that he is questioned the logistics of either.

I beg to differ about the wet/dry comment as well as the kaldness media.
Wet/dry is nothing new nor is it not highly used in the hobby, hell, even walmart uses it for their stock tanks.

as for the fluidized media... that has been around for longer than you would think and highly used in several applications so the lack of knowledge would not effect the situation.

[cu0ngsayz]

Wet dry media canister media all the same crap. If you Baller you can run anything in a wet dry just tweak things a little and it will work.

[Notsoballinxhobo]

I threw in canister also because most people run bio balls in canister and canister have bio media.

but we are speaking of wet/dry media.

[eklikewhoa]

Hmm... from the reading I see that the person stated the loss of power to one side which would probably cause a back siphon which would in turn drain water from the second wet/dry... since you did state and is true that the tank is the common area and will share that. The second wet/dry would fill into the tank to make up for the first wet/dry failing so I think that would turn out to be two dead pumps.

Another thing I would think that would fail is the overflow, losing siphon on one side would force all the water from one wet/dry into the other so if it can't handle it then now you have a flood on your hands.

Also, why complicate it by trying to run two? I agree with this ballin dude, why not just run one that can handle it all? pretty pointless to run two don't you think? These things are cheap and can be made using pretty much whatever.

[SunnyHouTX]

of course Im not bent on that but when comparing the specifics I would think you would compare it based on the actual specs and not just what ifs.

I'm sure there are plenty tweakings to be done which I am sure you were introduced into that as well but at the same time worried based on your own fear but again... I felt we were discussing the what is and not the what could be's.

again, I felt this was an open forum and discussion which the op asked for opinions of the media in consideration. I supplied it based on the key points of the media which would assume based on retail price as well and gave my 20pesos worth.

If this has become your thread and only your opinion rules then I will gladly accept.

My fear of what exactly O' Benevolent One?

[SunnyHouTX]

Who pays full price? I'm asian, we never pay full price or tax.
Are you assuming that the op was not going to pay full price?

I based my input on the fact assumption that we are comparing the majority and not on off situations.

No, you did, when you said that it was going to be a waste of money.

Since the majority of us don't run two W/D filters, or run K1/K3 in them, you failed to notice that this is in fact a one-of and tailor your replies accordingly.

[SunnyHouTX]

Hmm.. responded with anger and derailing from the topic? Stalemate tuned checkmate?
as for your second bit, regardless of when, it was still "Made" and "exist" which you and cuong failed to know and pointed out that my level experienced should be questioned since there was no such thing.

Something that is no longer readily available is irrelevant.

You're as guilty of derailing as much as everybody in the conversation now hobo.

No stalemate is not "tuned" to checkmate yet, because you still have failed to point out exactly what's so bad about running two wet/drys on one tank besides stating opinions and saying the sky's falling rather than explaining to us how exactly what you warn of happening will happen. Hell you failed to explain the nature of failure to begin with.

[cu0ngsayz]

guess so now, we weren't even speaking about canisters but you mentioned it somehow and tossed it into the mix.

I threw in canister also because most people run bio balls in canister and canister have bio media.

[Notsoballinxhobo]

While you seem to be hell bent on using things within the confines of original intent of the designer/manufacturer, some of us look to tweak things around a bit and that should go on unhindered, especially if you're not the one spending the money doing it. But thanks for looking out hobo

of course Im not bent on that but when comparing the specifics I would think you would compare it based on the actual specs and not just what ifs.

I'm sure there are plenty tweakings to be done which I am sure you were introduced into that as well but at the same time worried based on your own fear but again... I felt we were discussing the what is and not the what could be's.

again, I felt this was an open forum and discussion which the op asked for opinions of the media in consideration. I supplied it based on the key points of the media which would assume based on retail price as well and gave my 20pesos worth.

If this has become your thread and only your opinion rules then I will gladly accept.

[Notsoballinxhobo]

You're still assuming that everybody buys things full price. So what you consider to be a waste of money may not be. But please, go ahead and decide what's good for us all while you're at it

Who pays full price? I'm asian, we never pay full price or tax.
Are you assuming that the op was not going to pay full price?

I based my input on the fact assumption that we are comparing the majority and not on off situations.

[SunnyHouTX]

While you seem to be hell bent on using things within the confines of original intent of the designer/manufacturer, some of us look to tweak things around a bit and that should go on unhindered, especially if you're not the one spending the money doing it. But thanks for looking out hobo

[Notsoballinxhobo]

Are we comparing bang for the buck? I'm confused

guess so now, we weren't even speaking about canisters but you mentioned it somehow and tossed it into the mix.

[Notsoballinxhobo]

So let's get this straight: it's ok for you to question our experience to qualify our answers but it's a no-no the other way around? LOL, GTFO dude.



See, now you're playing semantics. "Used to make" is not the same as "they make".

Hmm.. responded with anger and derailing from the topic? Stalemate tuned checkmate?
as for your second bit, regardless of when, it was still "Made" and "exist" which you and cuong failed to know and pointed out that my level experienced should be questioned since there was no such thing.

[SunnyHouTX]

I never said that it won't work as bio-media but so will rocks, sponges, lavarock, straws, pvc, your dirty draws, etc.
My point was that using it in a stagnant or a non-fluidized state would defeat it's main purpose or selling point which also would be an expensive route to take when considering that it will not be used to it's full potential.

If media for a canister filter was topic of discussion then in that case I would like to submit my opinion if that is ok with the leet here, Matrix/pond matrix or sintered glass rings would be a much better option than kaldness or bioballs. There is more surface area in comparison which would allow for more hosting within a smaller amount of area. So in that sense, more bang for your buck as well as limited space constraints.

You're still assuming that everybody buys things full price. So what you consider to be a waste of money may not be. But please, go ahead and decide what's good for us all while you're at it

[cu0ngsayz]

Are we comparing bang for the buck? I'm confused