Ruh-roh!

[eklikewhoa]

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Idunno if someone here speaks fish language but I see ZERO damage done by the BG, even after it grasped it. For all we know based on just seeing the vid alone the BG was trying to revive the Moshi.

[Bedlamer]

Tony Jaa FTW! Always bet on the Thai...

[sunkenmetal]

where is this vid? I watched a couple vids but did not see anything like that.

[eklikewhoa]

After seeing the vid I am going to have to further disagree with you guys.

You guys passed judgement without knowing any history about the person or the fish or if in fact that BG actually did that damage to the Moshi. It looks like the BG was just hungry and let it's natural survival instincts kick in and decided it was time for it to eat.

[sunkenmetal]

lee shao long would kick that dudes arse

[eklikewhoa]

so not educating yourself about the husbandry of an incapable species in captivity and allowing for them to kill each other and play ignorant to it is not animal cruelty?

Did you know that Cyps are the natural food source of cyphos? would you consider me cruel for buying cyps to house with cyphos?

I might be mistaken but by your reasoning that would be considered cruel since the cyp has no obvious defense against the cyphos but in your ignorance(hypothetically speaking) you did not know they are considered food. so I am cruel for doing so but then if you kept cyphos I would consider you cruel for not providing them with something they are accustomed to.


I'm not attacking you about your viewpoint or opinions J, just trying to get some good discussion going about what is fit. Lets not get personal either cause bruce lee was a tiny dude and I'd put money on him and would pay to watch him fight someone like Kimbo Slice.

[moganman]

Yeah so under stocking isn't necessarily bad and it can't be compared to putting a much smaller fish in a tank with a starved and known killer. They are ethically on the two opposite ends of the spectrum. I'm not emo, I used to box, I've had over 100 in my life. No one but family and close friends know that. I would have never fought anyone that I knew I could beat.

[eklikewhoa]

Since this type of behavior is justified, we should all overstock our tanks with petros and tetras and expect since it's "appropriately" stocked that all fish will survive. Gimme a break

or just not keep fish at all?
Tetras, IMHO would not be lumped in with this discussion as to provide for most of them is fairly simple.

If you have a better solution to dealing with the aggression of petros/trophs by all means please do share as I will cease to suggest what has worked for me to better help a fellow hobbyist and be of all ears as to your solution.

The behavior you are not agreeing with is not justified but in the same sense, is intentionally keeping only few agressive fish by themselves knowing they will kill one another justified?


Please do enlighten me, we can have a civil discussion about this as I would like to know.
My culture has been embedded in my way of life so I have very little feelings or sympathy to animals that most consider a meal.

[Darth Coqui]

It did not bother me that he whacked everyone. No emo in me, lol.
Plus he needed a good home and be loved, let alone I wanted that variant. winny win win for me.
And.... I love me some mean fishes. (I prob get flamed but hey, thats just me. I am aggressive in nature)
I want more to my family, soooo please help a bro out. Crackheads like me be geeking for Kipilis.

Frankie

[myjohnson]

I think participation in the threads are optional.

Exactly, they have a right to be emo.

And I have a right to call them out on it.

All optional.

[Darth Coqui]

Not necessarily Mogan,
Just my perception of this is:
To a degree, everyone on this thread is correct in their own experience or personal preference.
It is great that so many facets of this hobby are indeed unknowns. Even the most educated in Petros still has questions that need answering and by getting the answers is through experiences or the experienced cost of others.
My experience vs someone else is just that.
Except that it would not rather be me due to the money and emotions of having the cichlids and treating them like family in such.
**I would rather watch somebody else get burned by the stove and me learning from that experience, therefore I will not touch the stove when hot. But that is just me**


Frankie

[myjohnson]

The Macro I took from Murdock was a bonefied killer.
IMHO It all depends on the fish itself just like humans, dogs, etc...

Agreed, it does indeed depend on the fish.

Question, if you knew that fish was a killer...why did you get him?

[moganman]

Since this type of behavior is justified, we should all overstock our tanks with petros and tetras and expect since it's "appropriately" stocked that all fish will survive. Gimme a break

[Darth Coqui]

The Macro I took from Murdock was a bonefied killer.
IMHO It all depends on the fish itself just like humans, dogs, etc...
They can be all docile but there is always that one that defeats all odds and its nature is to "kill".
However, Kipilis (EDIT: I meant Macros)nature are indeed agreesive, just like Helembe, Longola, BG, etc. And those are different variants.
Now my WC Male eradicated all of the males and females Murdock had. ALL then started to kill off other Petros.
When I got him, he killed within days, TX Bulu Points, Blue Dolphins and tried to knok off the Red Moiliros and the Kenyii Cichlid that were left. Moliros survived due to a rescuer named Sunny.

Macros in variant are aggressive. LOL Murdock will tell you the Horros the Male Kipili has left behind. The only Line left of the Kipili is the ones I have. And the 2 males I have are indeed mean SOB's just like daddy was.

It all depends on the fish itself, however the variant also must be accounted as far as aggressive tendencies.

Just my experience of my Beloved and Prized family member Kipili I had.

Frankie

[eklikewhoa]

lol, not really directed towards you or anything.

More of a general statement towards all the emos.

There as been a number of emo posts of late.

I think participation in the threads are optional.