Complexity's 90g Planted Tank Journal

[madehtsobi]

where did you purchase ur magma rocks from if you dont mind?

[Complexity]

I'll do that. The lights on that tank don't come on until noon on that tank so I won't be able to get a picture until later, but I'll get a pic then. I'll see about taking a few pics of the tank while I'm at it.

[mark razmandi]

just let me know about his spot tomorrow or whenever and ill have a much better idea...and the ones at XFP didnt have a double spot so i already know that for sure

[Complexity]

Okay, I could follow that. Now I'm dying to double check his spot! I think it's bigger than just a couple of scales, but I could be wrong. I don't remember seeing two spots (and I'd think I would have remembered if he had two).

I'm about to go to bed so I'll have to wait until I can get a picture of it tomorrow.

[mark razmandi]

i thought you meant you got yours confused with a heckelli and thats why i said you have a suri....let me try to lear things up lol i know i can be confusing sometimes cause i ramble...its defiantly not a suri considering there is only once place in the world the are exported form and no one hardly gets them. its almost most defiantly a brachybrancus due to its washed out color and faded spot but these species are known for a double spot as well so its hard to tell...it can very well be an abalios too considering they have a much larger and darker spot and richer color and i know XFP has some like this in some of their other tanks. it could also be an altifron of some type. Im guessing the black spot only takes up a couple scales and if this is the case, then its not an abalios...it is either altifron or brachybrancus...and dont worry, no matter which, it will color up very nicely in time

[Complexity]

yea, you got a geo surinamensis

yours is either a brachybrancus or an abalios...depending on how pronounced the spot is and the coloration...ill put money on it being a brachybrancus however.

I'm getting confused. I thought you just said it is a suri.

I guess I'll have to try to get some pics of it tomorrow. I'd like to know what I have.

[Complexity]

The color isn't very rich on the one I have now, as you had suggested. I was told that's because they're young. If water quality was an issue, then it should color up now that it's in a clean tank.

[mark razmandi]

judging form what i remember seeing at XFP...yours is either a brachybrancus or an abalios...depending on how pronounced the spot is and the coloration...ill put money on it being a brachybrancus however.....and i agree with tater about the suris from aquatic world being manaus...the coloration is very similar to that of a manaus...but he is defiantly right about the brachybrancus

[mark razmandi]

yea, you got a geo surinamensis. as far as how specific the species is, id have to see it...but they all are almost identical so you might not even be able to tell a difference in them from the ones at aquatic world. I do feel like they have better color though

[Complexity]

So do you have any idea what I ended up getting? Imagine a heckelii with a slanted head, and that's my fish.

[mark razmandi]

the heckellis looked almost similar because the water had not been changed in a while and their colors had all faded to a meshed uniformity LOL they are actually quite different once they reach their potential..but you are correct, the heckellis have a much more rounded face...actually the heckelli was not even known as a geophagus till more recently

[Complexity]

The ones I got were in a tank with some G. heckelli. Those were the ones that looked almost the same, but their heads didn't slope as much as the ones I got.

[mark razmandi]

oh and they different types almost look identical...

[mark razmandi]

the ones you are referring to are geophagus heckelli, or thread-fin acara and the geo steindachneri, or red hump....the heckelli and surinamensis both have a black spot on their side..although the heckellis is far more pronounced

[Complexity]

I got them from Xtreme. They had 3 types. One had a red spot on the head, and two looked similar to each other. Of those two similar ones, one looked more regular shaped while the other had a downward slant at the head. The slanted ones is what I got. I had him write down the name, but we all know how that goes. There's also a black spot, not real dark, on the side. I'll post a pic when I can.

In the meantime, I'll look up the ones you suggested and see if I can match it that way.