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Navarro
06-25-2009, 09:44 AM
I saw them going at it yesterday and they do this quite often I have had them for close to 8 years, but today she is definitely holding her mouth is full!!
What do I do? She is in a 58 heavily planted with Cryptocorines there are Amano shrimps o-cats and galaxy Rasboras they are the biggest fish in the tank.
Do they have a chance? Have anyone here breed them successfully?
Regards,
Navarro

Navarro
06-25-2009, 10:07 AM
OK is there a place I can look for help like a forum or something I just want to be ready the sooner the better.
I will have some one take macro pictures of her later.
Luis

Mzungu
06-25-2009, 10:49 AM
WOW! I'm sorry, I have no clue about chocolate gouramis, only the rumors about them being tough fish to keep. But I wanted to say congrats!

Maybe try searching the Krib database? They usually have reliable info and advice on there...

CichlidFan
06-25-2009, 11:04 AM
Well, at least you have some time to do some research....I don't know if this link will be helpful, but it's all I got .... www.tfhmagazine.com (http://www.tfhmagazine.com)

GOOD LUCK..with the brood Luis......

CF

Navarro
06-25-2009, 11:04 AM
Thanks I have contacted the owner of the Krib and ask him to look for info as well as any possible presentations documented on video.
Cheers,
Luis

kwc1974
06-25-2009, 11:52 AM
Congrats bro!

Rico
06-25-2009, 12:49 PM
call Mike at Fish Ranch. he's really knowledgeable with these. 713-779-2593. hope this helps

Navarro
06-25-2009, 03:19 PM
Thank you all!

Zulaab
06-25-2009, 03:51 PM
Did a little research.. I love the comment.. these fish are hard to keep, they make Discus look like hardy fish.
The things I can find is things like "talk to a betta breeder regarding feeding fry"
They hold for about 14 days

What I can find out is... talk to Phishphreek and ask him exactly how he deals with his babies.. He should be able to give you on the right track regarding how to keep the little ones alive.

Navarro
06-26-2009, 10:19 AM
Thanks Jesper I will send him an e-mail! I should have pictures later today if my friend has the time he will stop by to do some macro pictures on her.
I will set a small satellite tank with moss and floating plants to move her there. The fry comes out rather big 7 mm as far as I understand so taking BBS from day one should not be a problem.
The breeder I am talking to said that they can spit up to 40 fry and mortality rate is very low!
He advise me to add almond leaves to the tank to lower the ph even more so if any one have them is there any way you can sell me a few?
Regards,
Luis

kwc1974
06-26-2009, 10:23 AM
Hope every thing goes good. Best of luck to you.

Navarro
06-26-2009, 10:37 AM
Thanx!

Mzungu
06-26-2009, 01:10 PM
If you can't find any almond leaves by Sunday let me know. I think I have one or two I could bring to work with me.

Navarro
06-26-2009, 01:37 PM
Thank you Mzungu!

PhishPhreek
06-26-2009, 04:19 PM
I have read conflicting reports about which of the parents holds the eggs. Males have a yellow border on their anal fin.

I would move the parent to an spawn tank with blackwater (soft acid water) and a few floating plant leaves or the lid off a slushly for a nest protector. The parent sometimes spits the fry into a bubble nest.

Also consider putting some java moss in the tank and a small sponge filter at minimum flow rate as the fry will need infusoria or some other small live food. You can use green water, infusoria, microworms or bananna worms. Add a few small snails also
http://baker.ws/infusoria.html
http://baker.ws/worms.html
After the fry are released, you should remove the parent.

You may want to use some preventive meds in the spawn tank just as a precaution.

http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/gourami/chocolate.php

Navarro
06-26-2009, 04:36 PM
Pictures will be posted later today a friend is stopping by after 4:00 today to take the pictures since I am injecting co2 the Ph is low already; I don't want to stress the female/male? so I will find the way to circulate the water from the tank to the satellite tank and back to the main tank as slowly as it is possible the moss will be in the bottom and floating plants at the top.
I was told they are spit out rather big so I can go ahead and feed BBS immediately I am sure infusoria is present in my system since it was installed a while ago.
Wish me luck and I will keep you all posted!

kwc1974
06-26-2009, 10:22 PM
pictures please

mjbmrh
06-27-2009, 02:31 PM
Hi Louis, I had a chocolate gourmai that came in holding years ago and had fry and I used to breed the mouthbreeding Betta strohi. If they bred then the water is fine and I would leave it alone. If you have power filters going they need to go after a week or so. The more low level plant cover the better for the fry. They are definitely big enough for live baby brine shrimp. Check <brineshrimpdirect.com> for good shrimp eggs. It will need to be live baby brine. I wouldn't move the brooding fish unless you can catch it without stress and then put inside in a jar under water before lifting it out so its body never breaks the water surface. I would wait on this until you are sure the fry have hatched in the throat. I think that is 2 weeks but I could be wrong. This way if the fish spits them out you can save them. Some might survive in your tank as is but that's a risk. You'd need to cover the bottom with a thick blanket of java moss and go without power filters -- just sponges or airstones. Keep them warm -- at least 80. Moving the other fish is an option but that could cause too much stress. If you try to move her use two nets to catch her and have the jar already filled sitting under water. Good luck.

Bobby

Mzungu
08-06-2009, 05:27 PM
Hey, what ever happened here? Hope everything turned out all right.