Metricide 14 (Flourish Excel replacement) Gallon Jugs

[Totenkampf]

Any interest in a group buy on this? If I buy 5 gallons or more then I can get them for about 25 bucks each. The 4L jug of excel runs for around 60 bucks with shipping online and that equals 1.06 gallons. I could accept paypal from everyone, place the order, and meet after work somewhere when they arrive.

[Totenkampf]

have 1 other interested party...anyone else?

[mnemenoi]

We just bought some Excel or otherwise I'd be in. I'm interested in trying it out next time I run low.

[digitallinh]

Yeah, I bought 2 jugs last time, can't seem to use it all.

[Totenkampf]

i may not order for a week or two yet since i found another bottle that i had forgotten that i purchased, so far i have one other interested?

[Vigilante]

If it makes it easier, you can get 4 gallons shipped for $25.97 each from here or 3 for $26.47:

http://www.superiordentalsupply.com/inc/sdetail/7376

[johnnymisty]

I just bought a bottle of Excel and learning this whole planted tank thing but once we get up to speed on dosing Excel and flourish ill be up for getting In on a group buy

[Totenkampf]

If it makes it easier, you can get 4 gallons shipped for $25.97 each from here or 3 for $26.47:

http://www.superiordentalsupply.com/inc/sdetail/7376

this is metricide 28 though, i have read that it MAY contain surfactants but i am still unclear on this. some posts said it didnt because the only difference betweem the 14 and 28 is in the activator (where the surfactant may reside) which we will not be using anyway. i am going to try to confirm this before i order today. something is different because the M14 is 2.6% glut and the M28 is 2.5%. i found metricide 14 here for 29 bucks a single gallon with shipping, this drop to ~23 bucks for 2 gallons and drops another buck for additional quantities.

https://www.expressmedicalsupplies.com/checkout.php

[Totenkampf]

I received this response from a technical representative of the Metrex company, who are the makers of MetriCide:
the active ingredient of Glutaraldehyde is exactly the same in both products. It is just the percentage of glutaraldehyde in either one that changes.

MetriCide 14:
2.6% Glutaraldehyde
No Surfactants
pH Range: 3.2 – 4.3 unactivated; 6.5 – 8.5 activated

MetriCide 28:
2.5% Glutaraldehyde
Yes there are surfactants in this solution
pH Range: 3.2 –4.3 unactivated; 7.5 –8.5 activated

I was also forwarded the MSDS sheets and while MC14 is just 2.6% glut in balance water, the MC28 is 2.5% glut in balance "water and other inert ingredients". the specific gravity is slightly higher in the MC28 but the boiling point is the same so there PROBABLY isnt much of this surfactant in the MC28 but I am not going to take the chance...I will order the MC14. There is also a buffer in the activator of the MC28, but as I remarked above we shouldnt be using that.

[Totenkampf]

just some feedback on my order from expressmedicalsupplies.com, the metricide was ridiculously well packed and shipped in a very timely manner. i would recommend them to other boxers for this product.

[Vigilante]

Ahhh man, I wanted in on this. Oh
Well maybe next time

[Totenkampf]

yeah sorry we couldnt get more in on it too make it worthwhile to do a group buy. We might have saved 5 bucks on shipping but would have burned that up in gas since we live on opposite sides of H town. I was thinking you were going to buy the M28 type from the link you posted. I ended up feeling safer with buying the M14, nothing different to report on it yet.

[Vigilante]

Yeah not a problem.
I am going to go with the 14 also, after doing the research. Lmk how it compares to Excel once you have it figured out.

yeah sorry we couldnt get more in on it too make it worthwhile to do a group buy. We might have saved 5 bucks on shipping but would have burned that up in gas since we live on opposite sides of H town. I was thinking you were going to buy the M28 type from the link you posted. I ended up feeling safer with buying the M14, nothing different to report on it yet.

[Totenkampf]

the growth rates in the tanks using it seem to be similar to excel so far.