Tea party, REALLY?

[CichlidFan]

Well.....there's groups like this, that might have some real merit if we could undo the strangle hold that those in office have on us now...

http://goooh.com/

And also, I was thinking about this new fangled invention called the internet...how cool would it be to be able to vote on some piece of legistlation via some sort of personal registration at home, something that could be verified by the voter and a commision that the voter is qualified to vote....and say like on a topic like bail out money, be able to cast a vote from home, instead of letting a few heads of state tell us what we want....

Now granted I know there would be alot of specifics to work out, but we must do something before this insanity grows out of control...

CF

[wesleydnunder]

This is what I mean about us squabbling over specifics, terminology and special interest groups......

The system is not working, Republicans, Democrats, Independents, whatever, they don't matter anymore, the entire system is corrupt, contaminated, outdated, ineffecient, mute, it's broke and we need to fix the government/machine before it turns on us....

Question is.....How?



CF

How indeed. We could go to a lottery system. Just as part of our right to be an American citizen is to serve periodically on juries, we could serve a term in the House, Senate, etc. This eliminates lobbyists, coercion, special interests. It also eliminates the necessity that to be elected, you have to already be rich. Would this ever be adpted?..doubtful, but it's one idea.

We could also get rid of the rider system of putting bills together, or give the President a line-item veto, thus eliminating most of the pork that our tax dollars get wasted on.

We could also have American citizenship come with a price; serve a term in the military or other civil service to earn your franchise and right to vote. I think folks in general would take voting much more seriously if they had to earn it with their lives.


Mark

[CichlidFan]

We were warned way back when I was just little more than a toddler....

http://www.youtube.com/v/8y06NSBBRtY?fs=1&hl=en_US

He saw the possibility of what is now our reality....

CF

[ImaGuyGeek]

This video sums up the Tea Party. And notice, it calls out Republicans as well as Democrats. If you are a Progressive Republican or a Career "Big Government" Politician, you are not going to get the Tea Party support and you are as much of a target as the Liberal and Progressive Democrats.

http://www.eyeblast.tv/public/checker.aspx?v=hdkUkUQu6U

[CichlidFan]

This is what I mean about us squabbling over specifics, terminology and special interest groups......

The system is not working, Republicans, Democrats, Independents, whatever, they don't matter anymore, the entire system is corrupt, contaminated, outdated, ineffecient, mute, it's broke and we need to fix the government/machine before it turns on us....

Question is.....How?

CF

[marauder_77868]

SEIU, ACORN, UAW, Code Pink, NAACP, Rainbow Coalition, Teamsters, Media Matters, La Raza, The Teachers Union, AFL-CIO, Screen Actors Guild, National Endowment for the Arts, and many more are to the Democrats.

You left out the mainstream media...

[ImaGuyGeek]

Really?

Yep, Really. Based on your question here, you sound as though your confused or disagree. Care to expound upon the question?

[Delock]

Ralph Nader's Green Party is a good example. I would also add the following...

The Tea Party is to the Republicans

Like

SEIU, ACORN, UAW, Code Pink, NAACP, Rainbow Coalition, Teamsters, Media Matters, La Raza, The Teachers Union, AFL-CIO, Screen Actors Guild, National Endowment for the Arts, and many more are to the Democrats.

The Tea Party is a group of Americans that have a political agenda of lower taxes, less spending and smaller government. They will support any candidate that reflect their goals. It just so happens that most of the candidates that do have the same views are republican, Independent or Libertarian.

Very similar to the groups above that more often than not support Democrat candidates that support their agenda.

Really?

[jeebus]

IMO, the Tea Party was formed from pissed-off Republicans tired of RINOs ruining the party's most traditional platform of low taxes, limited government, and free-market capitalism.

If the Party falls back in line I think we'll see the movement fade away. It was only created out of necessity to "right the Republican ship".

[Darbex]

"Screen Actors Guild" I thought it was Film Actors Guild . lol

[ImaGuyGeek]

But when you look at Sarah Palin she is a Republican who is a Tea Party memeber. Steele, is support the Tea Party movement as part of the Repulican camp. So can we really call it one or the other. It seem more along the lines of the Allies vs. the Axis!

Ralph Nader's Green Party is a good example. I would also add the following...

The Tea Party is to the Republicans

Like

SEIU, ACORN, UAW, Code Pink, NAACP, Rainbow Coalition, Teamsters, Media Matters, La Raza, The Teachers Union, AFL-CIO, Screen Actors Guild, National Endowment for the Arts, and many more are to the Democrats.

The Tea Party is a group of Americans that have a political agenda of lower taxes, less spending and smaller government. They will support any candidate that reflect their goals. It just so happens that most of the candidates that do have the same views are republican, Independent or Libertarian.

Very similar to the groups above that more often than not support Democrat candidates that support their agenda.

[Darbex]

You dont have to be a republican to be a tea party member. The reason you see it dominated by republicans is the same reason like Traci said progressives are dominated by Democrats. The stance of the Tea party movement is conservative in nature which is where the Republican partys base is, much like Progressives are liberal in nature and that is where the Democrats base is. Now if the Americans grew up and became more enlightened in the political system and stopped allowing two corrupt parties from ruling the country we would have many more political parties and the Tea Party may actually be a real political party but due to the system we have allowed the Tea Party will never be a true political party it will remain until the Republican party envelops the ideas of the group and it will go away from national spot light much in the way Ralph Naders party did to the Dems in 2000. Europeans are much more enlightened in the political party system and hence why they have in most countries at least 3 or 4 strong parties.

[Delock]

To be honest, I think it's kind of like the difference between "Democrats" and "Progressives". I mean, really, the Tea Party movement all started because people were tired of all the new taxes and excessive spending, hence the name "Tea Party". And the Republicans were getting almost as bad at spending as the Democrats are, plus people didn't feel like their voices were being heard, so the Tea Party emerged as a group generally just sick and tired of all the big government spending. That's how it all got started.

If you're asking the question because you want me to say Republicans and the Tea Party are one in the same, then I would have to say, Yes....and No. Are they more conservative than Democrats? For sure! But they won't align themselves with the Republicans either. It's an overall dissatisfaction with all of the 'official' political parties.

But when you look at Sarah Palin she is a Republican who is a Tea Party memeber. Steele, is support the Tea Party movement as part of the Repulican camp. So can we really call it one or the other. It seem more along the lines of the Allies vs. the Axis!

[CichlidFan]

I beleive too, that part of the foundation for the movement that later became known as the tea party was formed from smaller town meetings of groups of people who are members of Ron Pauls "Campaign For Liberty" ....I'm not saying all tea party members are part of this group, maybe a significant percentage however....who really knows....

I am a member of the CFL....not to be confused with the CFR....smiles.

CF

[Darbex]

Great analogy Traci. I couldnt have put it better.