I have a question.

[myjohnson]

I think a lot of folks voted for Obama on the power of his speeches as well. The man is a powerful orator.

+1. I think he was the best speaker out the lot.

[Mzungu]

I can't seem to decipher this enough to agree or disagree with you: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_(c...f_human_beings)

Yeah, yeah, its wiki... I know...

From the link you posted:

"Large parts of the academic community take the position that, while racial categories may be marked by sets of common phenotypic or genotypic traits, the popular idea of "race" is a social construct without base in scientific fact.[7][8][9][10][11][12][13][14]"

It really irked the Eugenics movement that they couldn't find a genetically based reason to kill off certain "races."

[jeebus]

You know...Genetically speaking, there is no such thing as race.

I can't seem to decipher this enough to agree or disagree with you: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_(c...f_human_beings)

Yeah, yeah, its wiki... I know...

[cichlid1409]

groups of people that have evolved in different areas of the world are genetically predisposed to have certain traits. so gentics define a race.

[wesleydnunder]

You know...Genetically speaking, there is no such thing as race.

Micro-evolution, like the Tropheus variants.

Mark

[wesleydnunder]

there is no solution to discrimination...if we were all one race then people would find something else to discriminate against. religion, location, short, tall, fat, ugly, pretty or whatever. people don't like whats different, most of the time because they dont even like themselves.

Man, you got that right!

Mark

[wesleydnunder]

No...I'm saying he was elected, at least in part, by a feeling of people, not just blacks, that it was "time" to have a black president. I'm saying that a lot of people looked past his politics because they wanted to make history, to feel good that they had been a part of fighting racism, policies be damned. There are several black people that could have run that I would have voted for long before Obama and ahead of McCain as well. It doesn't have anything to do with skin color. It has to do with values.

I had a really pretty black girlfriend some years ago...I received (and she did too, for that matter) far more crap from black people than I did from white people. Now, please, go ahead and tell me that black people can't be racist.

I think a lot of folks voted for Obama on the power of his speeches as well. The man is a powerful orator.

Charles, Shelia and I found that to be the case as well when we dated. Mostly, it was the older generation of black folks against it but she actually got threats and told to move out of her neighborhood because I was white. We got some really hateful looks and one night an old black woman cut in front of us in line at Walmart and when I said something, she looked at Shelia and mumbled, "What you get". I didn't realize how much grief she got at work from black city employees until told about it later.

Mark

[Mzungu]

there is no solution to discrimination...if we were all one race then people would find something else to discriminate against. religion, location, short, tall, fat, ugly, pretty or whatever. people don't like whats different, most of the time because they dont even like themselves.

You know...Genetically speaking, there is no such thing as race.

[ImaGuyGeek]

You sure?

Look one post above the one I just quoted :)

[cichlid1409]

there is no solution to discrimination...if we were all one race then people would find something else to discriminate against. religion, location, short, tall, fat, ugly, pretty or whatever. people don't like whats different, most of the time because they dont even like themselves.

[jeebus]

Give us example please! On discrimination based on your skin color?


How about getting pulled over because of your skin color?
How about getting denied service due to your skin color?
How about having a gun pointed in your face cause you didnt fit in with everyone else?
How about being judge on your skin color and not your abilities?

Those 4 have happen to me within the past 10 years.

Getting pulled over...all the time. Reason I dont drive anymore nice rides.

Denied service a company here locally denied me cause my kind was high risk. Different company..same business pratices gave me what I needed the next day.


At gathering one night. I was the only black there. One guy started to showoff about his "skills" I was not amused. He felted slighted and stuck a gun to my temple. He said "You better laugh _ _ _ _ _!" I didnt say a thing. Someone took the gun and I left. Should I have press charges? Yea, but walking away was better.

Chris can vouch on this. I used to do car shows all over Texas and LA. If I was not near my truck when the judges came around. I would have a good chances of winning. If I was around....well a few shows my score card never showed up.


Do I think all the thing s that happen above was right? HELL NO! But, does that change me as a person? NO!

Sooooo.... what's the solution? Actually, lets first identify all the contributing factors to the problem, then lets talk solution.

[myjohnson]

I'm a racist.

I love black cookin more than white cookin.

[Delock]

Wouldn't have been possible. The EEOC does not recognize whites as being protected from discrimination in the workplace. That in itself is discrimination.

You sure?

[ImaGuyGeek]

Wouldn't have been possible. The EEOC does not recognize whites as being protected from discrimination in the workplace. That in itself is discrimination.

I am wrong. In the last few years, the EEOC has added guidelines for descrimination against whites in the workplace. This was not the case about 5 years ago. I guess the EEOC has recognized this as a problem.

Anyway, I just wanted to correct my post.

[supadave]

Charles -

I know you're not racist.... not at all . I ask those questions because even in racism....some people try to make a diference between "White" racism and "Black" racism . I know that it sounds crazy...but there are some people who think like this . I for one don't have a racist bone in my body . I actually have had just as many..if not more... loyal friends of other races than I have had that were Black .