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[wesleh]

Keep us posted.


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Will do!

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You could add Epsom salt anyways. Since you didn't treat the fish, it would be like you're quarantining them, but in your main tank. Amano shrimp fare well with increased TDS, at least mine do, so there shouldn't be any problems.

Hmm, sounds like a good idea. When should I do a WC after adding the epsom?

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[mistahoo]

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You could add Epsom salt anyways. Since you didn't treat the fish, it would be like you're quarantining them, but in your main tank. Amano shrimp fare well with increased TDS, at least mine do, so there shouldn't be any problems.

[aquabee]

Keep us posted.


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[wesleh]

Lol thanks for all the info! Great info to know for the future. I more then likely will not treat it since its not likely she'll make.

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[mistahoo]

Think of back in Biology class. Salt (NaCl) is hypertonic and will absorb water from the plant cells, since it has a higher osmotic pressure, causing them to become damaged. I don't know if you've ever looked at a leaf or plant under a microscope, but basically the cell walls shrivel when you put salt on them. But when you add water, the cells are nice and plump. Tried the same experiment with Epsom salt (MgSO4) and it didn't do anything. Same concept goes for your aquatic plants. Also, Epsom salt is used by many as fertilizer. It even says it is a plant fertilizer on almost all Epsom salt bags. I add it ever so often to my 20gal Long and 10gal because one has sand the other doesn't and I don't dose anything. It helps get the plants some Magnesium though it isn't necessarily needed as that stuff is already in the water and regular water changes will keep the levels high enough.

Edit: So basically, to shorten that up, add some epsom salt lol. It won't harm your livestock since you don't have any really sensitive shrimp. It may help the fish or it may not. It's up to the fish to decide to continue or not.

[mistahoo]

What's the reasoning for the live plants, shrimp, and snails? I do have plants, not heavily planted like I want it yet. I had 16 amanos but I only see like 3-4 at a time, so not actually sure how many there are now. And I have about 13 nerite snails. That sucks to know :/

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Salt harms live plants and snails. Shrimp not so much, but they are affected as well because when you add salt it affects the chemistry of the water quickly, and they're much more sensitive than fish. Epsom salt however will not harm plants or snails in anyway as it is not salt (NaCl) it is Magnesium Sulfate (MgSO4, which is not salt). It can still kill shrimp (mostly the more sensitive ones like bee shrimp and sulawesi) because again, it affects the water chemistry quickly and increases the TDS.

[aquabee]

Plants, snails, and shrimp (invertebrates in general) don't do well in salted water. Plants can handle it for a short time though.
Yeah, she's not looking too great but she may turn around. Even if she doesn't make it though, at least you know it's probably not infectious and your other fish should be ok. Good luck!


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[wesleh]

Swimming at the top. Does not look good for her at all.



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[wesleh]

If you don't have too many live plants, shrimp, and snails, I'd recommend adding Epsom salt to the water, or aquarium salt at 1 tbsp per gallon. Should help. But half of them that have distended tubes still end up dying. :(


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What's the reasoning for the live plants, shrimp, and snails? I do have plants, not heavily planted like I want it yet. I had 16 amanos but I only see like 3-4 at a time, so not actually sure how many there are now. And I have about 13 nerite snails. That sucks to know :/

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[aquabee]

If you don't have too many live plants, shrimp, and snails, I'd recommend adding Epsom salt to the water, or aquarium salt at 1 tbsp per gallon. Should help. But half of them that have distended tubes still end up dying. :(


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[wesleh]

That looks like a female threadfin. Could it be a distended tube?


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Hmm, I never seen what a distended tube really looks like so I'm not sure. But the fish is about 1"-1.5" looks like a juvenile still compared to the bigger females that I have.

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[aquabee]

That looks like a female threadfin. Could it be a distended tube?


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[wesleh]

I'm thinking the red bump on the rainbow is a wound maybe? It's not eating and has been hiding.

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[wesleh]

Nothing much you can do, Rummy Nose Tetra are more nippy comparing to threadfin rainbow. IME, I came to the conclusion that Threadfin rainbow can only be kept with absolutely nice, mild fish like neon tetra and maybe those other small rainbow fish. They are not easy to keep.

Well that sucks :( I hate to see my rainbows with those nipped fins. I really thought the rummy was one of the top mildest tetras.

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[suicune]

Nothing much you can do, Rummy Nose Tetra are more nippy comparing to threadfin rainbow. IME, I came to the conclusion that Threadfin rainbow can only be kept with absolutely nice, mild fish like neon tetra and maybe those other small rainbow fish. They are not easy to keep.