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  • Complexity
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    I would think that would work then. You have good filtration, as well, with your Eheim canister.

    Is the water still cloudy? Don't worry about the cyno. That's very easy to get rid of.

    Let's just wait until you get the test kit so we can finally see what's going on. Once you can test the water parameters, it'll be much easier to determine what the tank needs and where it is in the cycling process.

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  • kevinly
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    I have been doing 50% waterchanges everyday.

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  • Complexity
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    Thank you for moving the molly.

    Cyno is due to poor water conditions. Mzungu has the answer. Water changes and make sure your filter is able to handle the tank size.

    Cyno can easily be handled later, but it's just one more sign that says that tank is uninhabitable. Too much ammonia for too long with too few water changes.

    How often are you doing water changes and how much water are you changing each time?

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  • Mzungu
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    Keep up with the water changes, make sure the filter's pushing water throughout the tank, and while you're doing water changes try to siphon out as much as you can. There are some treatment options, but I would try to take care of it manually first.

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  • kevinly
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    Okay I quickly took the molly back out. However, today I noticed in my tank, there is cyanobacteria growing. Should I be concerned? Not too familiar with it.

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  • Complexity
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    The gills will begin to turn red or lilac in color, and may appear to be bleeding. The fish will being to lose its appetite and become increasingly lethargic. In some cases fish may be observed laying at the bottom of the tank with clamped fins.

    As the damage from the ammonia poisoning continues, the tissues will be damaged as evidenced by red streaks or bloody patches that appear on the body and fins. Internal damage is occurring to the brain, organs, and central nervous system. The fish begins to hemorrhage internally and externally, and eventually dies.



    Levels of ammonia as low as .25 Parts Per Million (PPM) can cause damage and distress, and ammonia levels of 1 PPM will cause damage, even if the fish don't show any symptoms. Higher than 1 PPM or extended exposure to elevated levels cause irreversible damage and shorten the life of the fish.

    Ammonia toxicity starts at the gills. The fish start gasping or hovering at the surface and the gills will look red.

    Continued exposure irritates the skin. The fish will start flashing and flicking and may seem agitated. You may notice a milky appearance to the fish because of increased slime production or the fish may get very dark. At this point the gill tissue will start to die off and you may notice shreds of gill tissue. The gills may look grey or pale.

    Further exposure and the ammonia invade the entire system. The fish will stop eating and move less and less. Eventually they will stay at the bottom. The fins may be burned away at this point.

    As elevated ammonia continues, their tissues will be damaged. If you see red streaks or bloody places on their body and fins, there is internal damage to internal organs and brain. If it goes on long enough, the fish will start to bleed internally and may develop dropsy as the organs start to shut down.
    Last edited by Complexity; 08-14-2009, 06:51 PM.

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  • Complexity
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    kevinly, why would you do that to the molly? Have you read what ammonia poisoning does to a fish? It's cruel! Makes me sick to my stomach to even think about what that poor molly is going through.

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  • armthehomeless
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    I'd take him out of that tank until the ammonia level is down to zero as Complexity and Mzungu have suggested. Just my .02.

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  • Mzungu
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    He might have survived, but ANY ammonia is VERY dangerous for fish.

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  • kevinly
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    Originally posted by Complexity View Post
    How's the molly doing?
    Well I had the molly in another tank for a few days, but today I decided to throw him back in there. He seems to be doing fine. He's helping me eat all the algae. My ammonia level is under 3.0ppm, I know that is still high but the molly survived in 6.0 +ppm ammonia.

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  • Complexity
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    How's the molly doing?

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  • kevinly
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    Test kit is not in yet. I think it should be in tomorrow.

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  • Complexity
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    Did you get your test kit yet? What are the water parameters now?

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  • kevinly
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    Ammonia is slowly creeping down. I can feel it!! Tank is cycling.

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  • Mzungu
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    Holy moly! That's some high ammonia! I'm glad the molly's safe now. And now you're safe, like Vicki said, to relax a bit on your water changes and such for the tank, since there are no longer fish in there. But I would still do water changes daily. And I hope the test kit arrives soon - it would be good to know as soon as nitrites start showing up, because then the ammonia will start to decrease and turn into nitrites, which are still quite harmful to fish but less so than ammonia. (Again, though, glad the molly's out of there!)

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