What fish is this?

[Tek]

Marine Koi? never heard of anyone keeping koi in brackish water before

Brackish=/= Marine. There is a huge difference

[Tek]

So you had a koi in brackish water?

yep. The pond it came from, for whatever reason, was brackish.

When I finally tried moving it back to fresh, it died.

This kinda sorta explains it:

http://www.cuttlebrookkoifarm.co.uk/articles/when-and-how-to-use-salt

Evidently the Brits love salting their Koi

[HERM]

So you had a koi in brackish water?

Marine Koi? never heard of anyone keeping koi in brackish water before

[eklikewhoa]

So you had a koi in brackish water?

[Tek]

I could never keep these alive to take home...

Me too it's like they die instantly a min out of water with bubbler they just die so easy Best bait for lake fishing

Too bad they die so quickly. I wonder why that is... Looking at them in the water, i was thinking it would be cool to keep a small school of them. Regardless, thanks everyone for the responses. I've been meaning to go fishing with my little girl. Now I've got the bait :)

Ever kept them in an aquarium BrAin? Reading online it seems they are generalist planktivores. That would present a challenge Also, in this small size, I wonder if they would do best in brackish or full salt. I don't have a tank that would accommodate their adult size but I think it would be an awesome undertaking. Thoughts?

I have had some luck using ice to chill the water, but immediate transfer was critical. I found collecting them from the net with a small transfer cup (without removing them from the water) was effective

When I lived in San Antonio I kept about 50 in a tank for about a year. They started disappearing after I rescued a koi and had noplace to put it so I dumped it in with the shad. The Koi would eat 3 or 4 two inch ones a night.

I kept them in a brackish tank with a few plants. I never really had problems keeping them in San Antonio and they made it home fine without a bubbler.

In Houston they seem a bit wimpier. Most dies before I got home, but I kept some really nice ones in Houston for quite a while.


Moral of teh Story: Houston Shad are wimps. Road Trip to SA!!!!

[BrAin]

I kept several alive in a bucket with this before. http://www.academy.com/webapp/wcs/st...+saver&Ntk=All

Take them straight from the water to a bucket and dont touch them using your hands.

Grandpa had two alive in a bucket for several hours with no air the other day. It was amazing

[BrAin]

Ever kept them in an aquarium BrAin? Reading online it seems they are generalist planktivores. That would present a challenge Also, in this small size, I wonder if they would do best in brackish or full salt. I don't have a tank that would accommodate their adult size but I think it would be an awesome undertaking. Thoughts?

I never tried to put them in a tank before. I used to fish alot so i have a general understanding on where to find them. Saw an oxygen bottle and a crazy expensive diffuser being used to keep them alive on a boat once. Bubbles were so small it looked like smoke in the water.

[mnemenoi]

I have had some luck using ice to chill the water, but immediate transfer was critical. I found collecting them from the net with a small transfer cup (without removing them from the water) was effective

[alexrex20]

The guy wasn't kidding when he said they were dead before the nets hit the water.

[cpirnie3]

Good luck keeping them alive 'til you get home.

That bad huh?

[alexrex20]

Good luck keeping them alive 'til you get home.

[cpirnie3]

Ever kept them in an aquarium BrAin? Reading online it seems they are generalist planktivores. That would present a challenge Also, in this small size, I wonder if they would do best in brackish or full salt. I don't have a tank that would accommodate their adult size but I think it would be an awesome undertaking. Thoughts?

[BrAin]

Best way to keep alive is oxygen. Would make a neat school in a tank. They love algae on rocks

[cpirnie3]

Too bad they die so quickly. I wonder why that is... Looking at them in the water, i was thinking it would be cool to keep a small school of them. Regardless, thanks everyone for the responses. I've been meaning to go fishing with my little girl. Now I've got the bait :)

[Sea-agg09]

Gulf menhaden (Brevoortia patronus)

Props for scientific names, and you are correct sir.

Me too it's like they die instantly a min out of water with bubbler they just die so easy Best bait for lake fishing

These guys are incredibly sensitive. I can seine them up by quite literally the thousands in Galveston, but they are all dead by the time the net hits the air. They are still good bait if they are decent size. These guys are the bait-ballers of the shallow gulf. All predators know these guys = big meals.