what gen are they?

[eklikewhoa]

WildCaught fetches more monies.

[moganman]

People lie about the generation of the fish, so what you have might not even be "F1"

[eklikewhoa]

that is where the term "tank raised" comes in.

[Fancyfish]

It depends on why you want to know the information. If you are inbreeding, then the offspring from 2 different f1 colonys would be F0 because you are starting new. If you are tracing them from wild caught parents or linebreeding, then F2. I don't think you would ever get F1 out of F1. But ./shrug maybe.

[Airjammer]

At that point, you go back to F0.

[Airjammer]

Brangus, Braford, Santa Gertrudis, are a few of the breeds that are 5/8 Brahman,
3/8 another pure breed.

[Airjammer]

If you breed said F1 cow, back to a purebred Brahman bull, you get what is considered a purebred Braford animal, wich is a seperate recognized breed, being 5/8 Brahman and 3/8 Hereford.

[Airjammer]

Horses and cattle are what I know best......

[mnemenoi]

Lol, you know you live in Texas when even Tanganyikan cichlid generational questions can be explained with cattle breeding...

[Airjammer]

IME, which is mainly with cattle breeding, this is how it goes.... If you breed a pure bred Hereford bull with a purebred Brahman cow, you get an F1 Braford. If you breed two F1 Braford to each other you get an F2.

[eklikewhoa]

Any kind of information on their origin would suffice.

Most, when asked will just say they are such and such which I got from my friend's, baby momma's, brother, who brought them in with his cousin who got them as wilds.

[sunkenmetal]

Not like they keep papers like race horses or show dogs lol

[eklikewhoa]

Honestly though....

Grow out your colony to a larger size, they are tiny now and keeping them in the small tank and allowing them to mature is not gonna help.
If they get some size on them just tell everyone your colony is wildcaught and that will help the sale.

But honestly, with all the lack of credible sources of where the fish came from around here I would just call all Tropheus just fish. I would not take into account of F# cause there is no telling what they are unless there is a direct proof of source.

[mnemenoi]

I was of the opinion that the F# was the generation, thus you have wild caught (F0), First Generation (F1), Second generation (F2), and so on. I believe if you breed two different collections of F1's you will have F2's, albeit with a wider genetic diversity in yours.

[eklikewhoa]

so you are saying they should be called F1 of F1 parents?

According to the masses the F denotation is to state what generation past the Wilds.
By your post you should call your fish TankRaised.

You can call them F1 from F1 parents that are from different colonies or just call them TankRaised, whichever is easier to you or make it even easier and say F2.

Yes they are F2 from different bloodlines but it is still the 2nd generation of the original wilds.


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