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crazybettaman
03-03-2009, 10:47 PM
ok, they bred,had eggs, i came home and now theyre wiggling, but the dady couldnt keep yhem in the nest. i took him out because was afraid that he would eat them, but now there all on the bottom wiggling around. i know about the lowering the water part, but will that work if there not in the nest and how would i keep the water warm and oxinated, what do i do, PP help:icon_hang:

PhishPhreek
03-04-2009, 12:55 AM
lower the water level untill the nest in on tope of them
put your heater in a quart jar of water and put the jar in the tank
cover the tank to keep drafts our and humidity in
after 3 days raise the water level, add a sponge filter and feed the little boogers.
Do you have microworms or banannaworms ?

crazybettaman
03-04-2009, 09:26 AM
ya, ive got micro worms, walterworms,bananaworm, vinager eels, and lots of inforians. or how ever u spell it. theres alot of them. i counted around 50 but thats even close to the amount thats on the floor. the fm is a red combodian hm. and she is big. twice the size of all the other fms. but seriuosly i think she had at least 200 eggs.looks like alot arent going to make.i may have 50 good ones, thanks PP.

crazybettaman
03-05-2009, 12:29 AM
yaaa, there stating to swim but not that good yet ill wait one more day to raise the water and turn on the sponge.theres still over 50 of them and well over 100 dead and unhatched ones. what should i do about all the bodys, i put some stuff in there to keep the amonia down it said it was safe for fish.

fishboyt
03-05-2009, 08:46 AM
I haven't had anything hatch and live for about a month.

eklikewhoa
03-05-2009, 09:19 AM
I would warm up some water that has aged to use to fill the tank.

Then get some airline tubing and siphon of the waste.

crazybettaman
03-05-2009, 11:09 PM
ya keep my room at 80 degrees and when i added the aged water it , it just dropped by one degree. im just about to siphon the tank, just hope i dont suck any of the little guys up. theyre so tiny. i know its been 3 dys but they still have an yokesac. i fed them banana worms but they didnt seem care about food right now, ill siphon and feed again in the morning

PhishPhreek
03-06-2009, 05:51 AM
Unfortunately, the high percentage loss is one of the things you have to put up with when hatching without papa. But 50 is better than you would get if he ate them all.

Your on the right path, keep the bottom clean and feed small amounts many times. If you syphon into a gallon jar, you can check for live fry and move them back in with a turkey baster.

the other option I have herd breeders use is adoption.
Breed a good daddy at the same time and move the eggs into his nest. :D

crazybettaman
03-06-2009, 10:35 AM
well theres still a few left its realy hard to with almond leaf, but i think i reall mest up by put the wrong kind of snails in there. the several feeding thing is hard because i work 12hrs a day.thesnails were wild caught snail that cultured several generations and treated with parasite, bacterial, and anti fungal stuff. oops

crazybettaman
03-06-2009, 11:49 PM
alright they must of been hiding from because when got home there they were saring at me like they were waiting for food, i still cant tell if theyre eating or not. more good news my cts have eggs in the nest, so lets see how this goes, im now setting up for my musturd gas hms

crazybettaman
03-10-2009, 11:17 PM
ok no luck with the musturd hms, ct spawn is doing alright but not near has many has my ddtxhm spawn , iwas in there counting again and the ddtxhm spawn have at least a hundred fry, its amazing they just keep popping up, but the ct fry theres only somthing like thirty, now i have another musterd hm f x a ct m in a breeder wish me luck. ya, ive got it bad man

crazybettaman
04-09-2009, 12:51 AM
ok, note to self, dont use a realy old culture of vinager eels. they near wipe out my intire spawn of hmxddt. luckl i didnt use any in my cts. so i just have about 8 hmxddt left. now that happened like 3 wks ago.everyone is eating bbs and doin great. and never mind that snail thing. the snails ive got in there r doin a great jod at cleaning

PhishPhreek
04-09-2009, 06:49 AM
I've never cared for VE. too much work and too little food.
I find that microworms or bananna worms provide more than enough fry food with very little effort. I've also had good luck with green water and infusoria cultures but I forget to maintain them between spawns.

crazybettaman
04-09-2009, 08:19 AM
ya mw bw and ww are great imhaving the same problem with the inforsia my self i used cabage this time and boy did it stink up hole apt.but i usely let them die out after the spawn switch bbs

PhishPhreek
04-09-2009, 11:12 AM
Lower the water
put a heater in a quart jar and put the jar in the water
this is a temp fix for 3 days - then add water every day and feed

crazybettaman
04-10-2009, 12:47 AM
ok, i think u lost me man. r we still talking inforsia or feeding fry inforsia?:eusa_eh:

PhishPhreek
04-10-2009, 09:19 AM
Lower the water
put a heater in a quart jar and put the jar in the water
this is a temp fix for 3 days - then add water every day and feed

I was talking about raising betta fry without papa....
I changed brousers and lost track of new/old messages

crazybettaman
04-10-2009, 11:51 PM
oh ok,hey how old do they have to be before can tell tail type

PhishPhreek
04-11-2009, 08:19 AM
8 -12 weeks depending on how well you care for them

crazybettaman
04-11-2009, 11:37 PM
how can i judge how well im doing. they r 6 weeks old

PhishPhreek
04-12-2009, 11:37 AM
If they are alive, you're doing good
If they're big and fat, you're doing great
If you can already sex some males, you're doing fantastic.

crazybettaman
04-12-2009, 10:48 PM
ok i geuss im doing great then. thanks pp