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  • Maingano vs. Johannii

    Does anyone have a good way to tell the difference between the adult males of these two Melanochromis species?
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    Re: Maingano vs. Johannii

    Tim all the Mainganos that Ive every owned where alot bigger than the Johannii by at least 1-1 1/2" I am sure this isnt going to help much but just what Ive noticed.
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    • #3
      Re: Maingano vs. Johannii

      Thanks Cesar.

      I've never owned either one,  so anything that you all can tell me about them is helpful. This is what I know so far:

      -Maingano is more docile than M. johannii
      -Maingano are monomorphic whereas M. johannii are dimorphic
      -Both fish have blue/black lateral stripes
      -The female johannii is yellow-orange with indistinct black stripes


      Anyone feel free to add on if you know anything else or if you have had either of these fish.
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      • #4
        Re: Maingano vs. Johannii

        Tim

        This is what I found on the net.  -- http://www.wetpetz.com/maingano.htm

        # The pattern is the same as for Melanochromis johanni males, the difference between the 2 males is that the johanni has deeper body while the Maingano has a slender elongated body. This mbuna is often confused with M. johanni. One important distinguishing characteristic is that females are not orange, whereas female M. johanii are. Both male & female M. cyanerhabdos are colored the same; however, males may have more intense coloring, particularly dominant or sexually active males.
        # This description of the differences appeared in an article by Eccles in 1973: "M. cyaneorhabdos may be distinguished from other members of this genus, except M. johannii by the dark navy-blue ground color with a pale blue stripe running from the dorsal region of the caudal fin to the interorbital bar and a pale blue stripe running from the ventral region of the caudal fin to the pectoral region. Breeding M. cyaneorhabdos males tend to have an overall bluish hue, whereas M. johannii males tend to be almost black rather than blue. Melanochromis cyaneorhabdos tends to have more gill rakers on the first epibranchial (9-11) than does M. johannii (8-9)."

        If this is what I am thinking you are looking for I am going to agree on Melanochromis johanni as the pictures of the maingano show MUCH lighter color in the dominant male.

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        • #5
          Re: Maingano vs. Johannii

          So which is which?





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          • #6
            Re: Maingano vs. Johannii

            I would say the bottom ones are Melanochromis johanni..   They have more of a compressed face.. the middle one I would say is a Maingano

            Problem with the pictures are as follows.  It reads above that crossbreeding will cause the lines to become bad and it looks to me that several of the fish have some crossbreeding between them making them not as pure as they need to be.  

            Just my two cents

            Jesper

            What fish do Jesper have
            180 WC T. Moorii Chilambo +1 Petro trewavasae.
            110
            Cyps, WC Xeno Spilopterus Kipili WC/F1/F2 T. sp red Kiku
            58 S. Decorus

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            • #7
              Re: Maingano vs. Johannii

              Good. The middle one is supposed to be a johanni though... at least according to the publisher of the picture.
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              • #8
                Re: Maingano vs. Johannii

                That makes sense because he's got a bluer body, and the other's have a blackish body.
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                • #9
                  Re: Maingano vs. Johannii

                  I've looked at pictures before trying to figure out how to tell the difference and think the stripes and pattern are supposed to be a little different. I think Maingano have wider stripes and Johanii are slimmer and blotchy, but I could be wrong because it's been awhile since I researched it.
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